DHS NEO Skyline 2 TG2
Double Happiness (DHS) NEO Skyline 2 TG2 reviews and ratings on this inverted table tennis rubber.
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Description of DHS NEO Skyline 2 TG2
These new and improved TG2s are designed specifically for the new VOC-Free glue era.
Neo Skyline 2 keeps the unique colloid with acerbity and glutinosity combined. The technology can create strong and changeful spin by different methods (friction and deformation). The beating power could penetrate into "NEO" sponge, which is in the energy storage status gives players power to create more aggressive spin.
Reviews of the DHS NEO Skyline 2 TG2
aj123347 said this on May 16, 2010:
A very... different rubber. is soft so you do want a stiffer blade unless you like a medium tacky rubber (that fades) with a medium-high throw. best at driving, looping maybe a stiffer blade would help
Darren Rapacchi said this on January 21, 2011:
I use this in black 2.1mm on my BH of a Butterfly Kong Linghui Off blade.
I use to use H3 but this has more gears and more spin. Even after around 6 months with regular cleaning with foam cleaner this rubber looks like new,perfoms like a new rubber to.
I can chop and load the ball with large amounts of back spin from any distance, I am a mid distance looper and hit on both wings and this rubber offers me very good speed for backhand hitting even at 7-8 feet away from the table. I never used normal skyline 2 so can't compare. This is my BH rubber, I use Hurricane 3 new on my FH.
msilhanek said this on September 10, 2011:
I don't agree with aj123347's review fully but we can play totally different styles so different opinions like this could occur. I'm a top spin attacker prefering more spin. This rubber is really well suitable for top spin attackers imo, it's spin and controll is great. The level of speed is optimal for this kind of play imo (I'd say it's very close to Bryce). I really don't recommend it for agressive attackers because I think if this rubbers has a weak spot, is it driving. I don't feel so much controll when trying to play a fast drive stroke, the ball usually flies straight off the table (I recommend Bryce, Bryce Speed or Almana for this game style). My overall rank is 8,5 because this is not a complex rubber. If you prefer rotation and control, you've found a perfect weapon. If you don't, look about something else.
EDIT (April 2011): After some more time playing with this I've changed my overally ratings to 9.5. It's an offensive top spin rubber, many gears, great controll. Fast drive is still the weakest stroke but you can handle it comfortably after some time playing with it. Great weapon for a less than half price comparing to Butterfly products.
EDIT2: I was comparing the price to Butterfly but it doesn't mean it is a good alternative for Butterfly rubbers. It plays different and you need to spend some time to learn how to play with it. But when you get into it it's a really awesome rubber.
EDIT3 (August 2011): I've been using it since february and now I feel it needs to be replaced. Speed is still good but spin has decreased noticeably. I'll buy the Skyline TG2 Neo again because this is the best rubber I've ever played. I keep the durability rating on "lasts longer than average" because it lasted 6 month of intensive every day practice. It doesn't last ages but 6 month is very good for me (comparing to Bryce and more other rubbers).
EDIT4 (August 2011): Copy - paste from my Tenergy 05 review.
"I was using it some time ago but I'm going back to the DHS Skyline 2 TG2 Neo. I can compare these 2 rubbers very well now. These rubbers are very close when comparing speed. Tenergy's throw angle is much higher (really high for me). Both rubbers have medium hard sponge but Tenergy's higher throw makes me somehow more difficult to controll it. But it depends on your style, I think many people like that because it is easier to get the ball over the net. Spin - DHS produces more, I'd say about 10-15%. It is not a huge difference but I can feel it. Conclusion - very good rubber, good for beginners and forgives mistakes (Tenergy). On the other hand you can buy much cheaper rubbers with more spin and controll (for example DHS Skyline 2 TG2 Neo)".
EDIT5 (September 2011): I've bought a new sheet of this rubber. It was slow for the first hours but now after a week of practice it is the Skyline TG2 Neo in it's best. Still can't be sure about consistency but these my 2 sheets are almost identical (I can't remember if it felt slow for the 1st time when I bought the old sheet but I think it was).
EDIT6 (September 2011): I've been thinking about it and I've realised that ratings aren't objective at all. If you look at the ratings of this rubber, you'll say "awesome, easy to play rubber". Spinny, fast, high throw, high controll. But... Speed - If I compare other rubbers with the rating around 9... Uncomparable, this rubber isn't slow but it is much slower than Tenergy 05 (9.3) or Rakza (8.9). Spin and control is awesome, no doubt (higher than Tenergy). But what is totally wrong is the throw angle rating. I've rated it as medium. It isn't low (for example Joola Drum, this is really low). If you look at the rating, it says it has medium-high throw. But it isn't correct at all, I'd say it is medium but it is closer to medium-low. If you consider how this rubber plays, it is kinda slow, lower throw, very flat ball curve. You have to use lot of power and aim somehow higher to get it over the net, especially when looping. It isn't an easy to play rubber, it needs skills and good technique to use all the potential inside. I use it only on my forehand because it is the dominant stroke in my game, I can't use it on the backhand because this rubber doesn't forgive mistakes. It is awesome but you need some time and skills to use this. I strongly recommend to use this rubber with an off or off+ blade to compansate it's low speed. Summary - If you have mastered your top spin technique, your footwork is good and don't lack power in your hands, go for it. If you don't, you'll struggle.
Skippy said this on October 29, 2011:
Good inexpensive rubber. Not a particularly bouncy rubber so it's nice and controlled in the short game. However it's like a lot of Chinese rubbers in that you have to put into it what is going to be produced. Active strokes are necessary. Blocks will be pretty dead, however you just turn most of your blocks to punch blocks or even counters if you have the time you'll get quite a bit out of it. The throw is medium. The tack isn't nearly as high as the ratings would indicate. I really enjoy this rubber on the forehand side. The first time playing it the throw starts out pretty darn high, but as the rubber breaks in it lowers a bit, and lands in the medium throw range. Spin is good on serves. The loops are good, and the harder you swing the more you'll get out of it. This rubber doesn't really top out. Be agressive and you'll probably like it.
byron_bcyl said this on December 7, 2011:
My TT Gears
- Joola Eagle Fast Balsa (ALL~OFF)
- TG2 Neo (FH) 40 Degree
- Mark V (BH) 2.0MM
I lost my previous racket, which is Prasidha Twister on Forehand (All round for FH, a lil more spin) and Sriver BH.
Modern table tennis is about spin and speed. TG2 Neo can offer both with high control; hence I can loop the ball very easily, and the speed and spin are both fascinating.
All chinese rubbers will become more lively as you play more with them. The sponge is so dead for the first 2 hours i played with it, but after a few rounds of warm up. it's getting so bouncy =)
Cons that I can think of are... Prasidha Twister is so different from TG2 neo, when your opponents set the ball high, you have to be careful, it is very likely the ball will fly off table if you're not used to chinese medium to hard sponge rubbers. Another thing is, it's heavy ==
decoi said this on December 9, 2011:
definitely a rubber to consider, while i dont use the rubber i have played with it on a Stiga Clipper Wood, and the spin this rubber generates is just great and its so easy to generate. the speed is also very good, but not extremely fast for me anyway it was just the right speed
Niddan said this on January 18, 2012:
I like skyline 2 neo better than 3 neo, because it have a more speed so i can kill the ball faster. The spin is very good, for looping, serving and perfect for pushes!
Jonsonas said this on February 28, 2012:
Have bought this rubber a week ago and played for about 4 hours. It is my first chinese tacky rubber - formerly was using Stiga Boost TS, Xiom Vega Europe, glued Butterfly Sriver FX. When unpacked from vacuum, it was very tacky - You could lift a ball from a table easily. I think it was due to a protective sheet glueing. This rubber starts to work normally after about 2 hours of intensive play, so don't be confused. The throw angle is being pretty high at first, but after some time it normalizes. I use Tibhar Stratus Power Wood OFF blade and NEO Skyline 2 TG2 on my FH. Compare to Stiga Boost TS, I feel much more power, much more control and spin. Yes, the technique is a little bit different from European rubbers - mostly You can't do a short fast swing, You must do a full arm swing to do a good topspin. I have read before buying, that tacky rubbers react to an opponents spin a lot more and was afraid of that, but I can't feel this when playing with this rubbers. I have talked with a really good players about that rubber, and they have said, that they haven't heard anyone being dissapointing about that rubber. What I like the most - it has no tensors or any other similar technologies, so the spin and speed is created only by Your hand, so You can easily control Your playing gears. It could only not match Your style - for example, if You're pretty tall and have pretty long hands to do a big swing, You'd probably like it. Otherwise, if You're small and short handed, lifting topspins from a middle distance and low level, You'd probably struggle with this rubber. For me it works perfectly, I think that everyone offensive player shoul consider trying it - keep in mind, that it costs only 1/2 or even 1/3 price of most European inverted rubbers.
Power7 said this on March 24, 2012:
Been playing with this rubber on FH for a few weeks. I really enjoy this Chinese rubber. It is great for creating spin on serves and looping.
Drives are very good with this rubber. Weakness is in no spin smashing.
Lovish Issar said this on June 7, 2012:
its the best of all the DHS rubbers out there. Gives a real hard competition to the tenergy and beats it at some aspects. dont know why it is categorised under "Spin - control" , after being such fast. Makes me happy each time i play with it.
pingponger said this on July 9, 2012:
It took me a little time to get used to this rubber since I never used tacky rubber before but when I got used to it this became my favorite rubber. I've used xiom omega IV pro, sriver, sriver g3 fx, tenergy 64 and 05 previously but I think this is better for looping (if you play chinese style), I find that looping a underspin seems to be much effective with this rubber.
poknas said this on July 17, 2012:
if you love sriver..you'll love this one..control at ease.
Hozze said this on July 19, 2012:
Using it as FH on a Stiga Hybrid Wood penhold blade. Had a Neo Hurricane 3 Provincial before, played the Neo Skyline 3 prior to that.
Slightly slower, harder, and about as much spin as the Hurricane 3P, but faster, softer and more spin than the Skyline 3. Plays more similar to the H3P than the Skyline 3, for some reason.
Does everything really well and offers (for me) the ideal compromise between speed and control. Loved the H3P on my good days but I was too hit and miss with it overall. This allows me to play the same game but with slightly larger margins.
Highly recommended, cheap as well.
gen2player said this on July 19, 2012:
Quantity of spin generated coupled with good speed control makes this a high quality rubber when used on offensive plus blade.
Carbonation said this on July 20, 2012:
A very good rubber, speed is average despite being on a carbon blade, due to it's tackiness. *
Somehow the construct seems to makes it less sensitive to the incoming spin (than other rubbers I've used) despite being tacky, hence giving it a better control factor and therefore really dominates the spin game.
The amount of spin it can generate on the serves is good.
The downside of this rubber is the weight of course. However it is lighter than the commercial Hurricane III (one of the reasons is that the sponge is slightly thinner on the neo Skyline II).
Probably one of the best rubbers I've used so far. But it would be better to use a lighter blade for it (at least <85 g, personally I would get a blade in the 70-80 g range), as it gets tiring for the wrist.
*Update: After playing with it for a bit (over 15 hrs), the rubber has indeed become livelier, faster, but still can produce lots of spin, hence amazing for loops. This rubber deserves proper care (foam cleaner and sticky rubber protectors do the trick); doing so makes it like new albeit a tad less tacky (but still very sticky as it can still lift a ball from upside down).
Edit 2: Still spinny and lively after over 30 hrs+ of play ! My favourite rubber so far !
Facebook said this on July 31, 2012:
Set up: Hurricane Hao flared, TG 2 Neo on forehand 2.15, and Xiom Vega Europe on backhand 2.0
Background: Offense orientated. Emphasis on flips, over the table loops, quick-attacks.
The TG Skyline 2 NEO is an offensive style rubber which specializes in top-spin orientated shots, particularly loops, but still retain a moderate amount of control. Prior to coming to the TG 2 NEO, I was previously using the Hurricane 2 NEO. In comparison of the two, I found the sponge of the TG 2 noticeably softer, though still hard in comparison with most other types of rubbers. The topsheet was initially just as tacky as a new sheet of H2 neo; however after a few hours of play the tackiness was a little bit less than H2 neo's. The sponge like other NEO series rubbers from DHS has that tuned (?) shiny coating on it. They say you can just glue up the blade and attached the rubber dry, but after trying that with both the H2 NEO and TG 2 NEO I personally found the bond was not strong enough with just gluing up the blade only.
First, I agree with everybody's assessment that the rubber takes a few sessions for the rubber break into its expected play style. That said, the TG 2 NEO will start off with a high/med-high throw angle then should progress to a med throw angle. The initial tack as mentioned was strong but after a while will diminish a bit - note this does not mean a correlating diminish in spin. I agree with DHS's marketing of TG 2 NEO as "Spin + Control". The spin is very good in the spectrum of table tennis shots. Compared to the H2 neo, I would say that while H2 neo's spin was greater than TG 2 neo only in full, all out loops. TG 2 neo in my opinion provides better overall spin in all other shots and equal spin for normal speed loops than the H2 neo.
The draw for me about TG 2 neo was that despite being such a spin type rubber, the control was surprisingly higher compared to other tacky, hard sponge rubbers I've used in the past - in particular the Hurricane series from DHS. This said, though more controllable I wouldn't say the control is equivalent to let's say rubbers whose main appeal is control such as 729's Focus 3 Snipe. It's just that for the offensive characteristics you get out of the rubber it's nice to have enough control to utilize it. Serving was fine. I would say I got more spinny serves from the H2 Neo (probably b/c of its higher tack) but I do no thinkt this may apply to everyone or is too hard to adjust to.
Speed wise I will agree with the reviewers who say it's on the lower side. I do not think the rubber is slow, just average speed. Compared to H2 neo speed, I would say TG 2 is lower in lower in all shots except smashes which I think both of them are average/slow speed. TG 2 Neo works well up close to the table and from my experience is fine 1-2 steps back. I do not lob/fish or chop, so I can't say it performs on this end. Pushes are typical for tacky type rubbers; that is they're not as easy as non-tacky rubbers but are manageable. Looping underspin has always been something I struggle and I won't say the TG 2 Neo makes it effortless but I will say it's much easier to do than the H2 Neo.
I can thoroughly say I have enjoyed the switched to TG 2 Neo. Probably the main reason would be because for controlled spin the rubber offers. As far as durability goes after 6 months of use and regular cleaning with tap water and a sponge, the rubber is still tacky and other playing characteristics have not noticeably lessen. Pricing wise, I believe TG 2 neo is a good deal. For around 18 - 23 dollars, it doesn't hurt financially to try it out.
sadako77 said this on June 10, 2013:
I played Stiga Carbo Sound in my fh at first, but i thought that i want to make my serves more deadly, I switched to this. it is spinier but not as much speed and control as Carbo Sound but the difference is very little. it is good for fh rubber and for serves. great at it's price. :)
fh: dhs neo skyline 2 tg2(max)
bh: stiga carbo sound(max)
blade: stiga clipper cr
Jokee said this on July 11, 2013:
For it's low price I felt I have to test it to see if this type of rubber suits for me.
I have tried it once now and I didn't like it. The 40 degree version felt way too hard for me. It also felt dead if I didn't give a good swing to it.
Hopefully it will come to life as I play more with it.
Benigma said this on July 11, 2013:
First starting out, I didn't experience the high throw angle that everyone else was talking about. Rather it was quite inconsistent, being high and low at times even though I put the same power and angle on my loop.
I was also disappointed with the amount of spin that it produced.
Keep in mind that I have only had it for one day, and everything could change after a couple of sessions of playing like msilhanek's review.
Will keep everyone updated.
(Update 1) Okay, after 1 week the rubber has become definitely faster and livelier, so that break-in time that everyone is talking about is true. It produces outstanding spin and the throw angle has definitely lowered so your looping strokes have to be more vertical to bring the ball over the net.
I have realised that to bring out the true potential of this rubber, you must do a full, powerful swing- and I mean hit it and hit it hard. I put all my power onto my forehand loop and the ball turns into a rocket spinning way into outer space!
I'm disappointed about the rubbers tackiness however, its gotten less tacky. (I clean it with a damp sponge after every session and treat it like a baby!) Despite this the spin produced remains more or less the same.
I would only recommend this on the forehand after trying it on both forehand and backhand. I would also strongly recommend it to players who have a powerful, straight arm loop as this will bring out the full potential of the player and rubber.
sto4i07 said this on September 4, 2013:
Very good bh rubber
geeza_1 said this on September 5, 2013:
This is the best of all the Chinese rubbers I have tried so far.
The top surface feels tacky, but also elastic, so you can generate spin very easily on loops and brush loops.
Although the sponge is hard (like all Chinese rubbers), it doesn't feel rock hard like the Hurricanes. In 39° I find it firm, but still soft enough to generate good spin on shots hit more softly.
If you are struggling to control tensors or Tenergy, this could well be what you are looking for. Still has plenty of speed when hit hard.
At the price, I cannot think of any negatives. In fact, it is hard to justify the price for the new series of tensors at $60 or more when you can get this for $20.
Amigo said this on October 26, 2013:
Many reviews out there so need to go in details.
I agree with the extreme spin of the rubber and high control, but disagree with the speed rating. For me this is very fast rubber if used properly like any other dhs Neo sponge rubber.
Bit easier to use on BH then H2 Neo but maybe not as effective, it is slower then H2 and has higher throw.
Tensors tend to be much easier to play then this especially on BH side so choose wisely :).
All in all another big gun from DHS requiring some skill to use to get most out of it.
I would recommend this rubber to all with 1+ years of xp in table tennis as a FH or a BH rubber depending on a throw preference. Requires physical play.
Enjoy TT, have fun :)
man_iii said this on November 12, 2013:
I am using black rubber.
Very High spin and speed above average.
The orange sponge is definitely not soft :-)
A little heavy ( 2.2mm is heavy)
Very tacky. Doesn't react to incoming spin much.
Throw angle is high enough to naturally loop the ball over the net. Incidentally making it easy for opponents to smash you !
Slow chops or Fast Top-spin loops are excellent with this rubber. Serves are magic :-) Blocking is good.
Very good rubber for looping, but not so good for smashing as you need to close the blade more to make it in.
Updates: Couple of things about this rubber.
1. Cleaning is always VERY difficult with this rubber as it picks up EVERYTHING dirt dust lint ANYTHING and EVERYTHING will stick to the surface. Using Foam cleaner is RECOMMENDED with a soft plastic spatula (no sharp edges ) to scrape the foam off. DONT USE SPONGE FOR CLEANING IT WONT WORK.
2. Rubber has a VERY HARD sponge. Any "gentle" player or "drop" shot player better not pick this or most of the Chinese rubbers.
3. A Full loop is required for effective control on either the FH or BH side. So no "smashing" as the ball will fly off into the distance if you do.
4. You can play a very controlled game, IF AND ONLY WHEN YOU BRUSH THE BALL. Dont expect this rubber to do any work for you beyond giving the necessary speed. Spin and Control are in your hands, meaning you have to swing your hands arms hips body to get it.
This is probably the cheapest and best DHS rubber, better than any of the Hurricane 3 or Skyline TG3 ( Neo/ non-Neo). There seems to be a BIG difference in control between Chinese rubbers and other European / Japanese rubbers. Durability ( preserving the same or almost same effect throughout the rubber's life ) seems to be an issue just as much as Consistency.
The problem is the rubber blocks well, but brushing to play strokes ( trying to increase the dwell time, increase the spin ) its very inconsistent. Same strokes react sometimes high / low , slow / fast, spinny / dead :-( which is not what I want. Smashing is not at all possible since the opponent can still see the ball and react to it enough that he returns it. The rubber after 6 months of light / medium play ( 5 - 10 hours weekly ? ) just started losing its edge.
So I can't play a loop game, or a kill game, and end up just blocking with no advantage.
I have decided due to the lack of quality, consistency, durability and I can't play my techniques at all its goodbye to chinese rubbers, it was good while it lasted.
tomasedasonno2 said this on November 24, 2013:
Do not use this on your fh if you've been using rubbers like sriver or tenergy. smashes are impossible to execute. loops are spinny, but only powerful close to the table (it is an asian rubber after all). good thing: serves are crazy spinny.
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